July 7, 2011

Extrapolating (Possibly Unscientifically) the Extent of Voter Fraud in Rhode Island from Rep Williams' Experience

Monique Chartier

Though I was as surprised as Justin at its passage, bravo that Rhode Island has put a voter i.d. law on the books.

Arguments were made against the measure right until and even after Governor Chafee signed the bill, however. Rep Larry Valencia went so far as to say that we would be fixing a problem that doesn't exist. Inasmuch as he sits near a victim of voter fraud in the House of Representatives, someone who also is the mother of a victim of voter fraud, it is completely unclear how the rep can make this assertion.

Such inattention aside, let's do some numbers.

Rhode Island has 702,000 eligible voters.

In 2006, Rep Anastasia Williams and her daughter went to vote and were told that they had already voted. Their votes had been stolen from them. (She's the colleague whom you want to inform, Rep Larry, that voter fraud doesn't exist.)

Rep Williams is one member of a 113 member body. 1 / 113 = .009

[Feel free to correct any of this math.]

So the percentage of General Assembly members who have been victims of voter fraud (that we are aware of) is .9%. That becomes our multiplier.

Final step: 702,000 Rhode Island voters X .009 = 6,318

Accordingly, presuming the rate of voter fraud victimization is the same for the general population as it is for members of the General Assembly (one in 113), there have been 6,318 instances of voter fraud in Rhode Island, with the caveat that the multiplier and the total for the state change considerably if even just one more member of the G.A. has been a victim.

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As they say in Olneyville....."This ain't news". The Kennedy-Nixon election was decided by dead people in Chicago. Voter fraud may be the worlds oldest profession...hey maybe RI will decriminalize that too.

Posted by: ANTHONY at July 7, 2011 10:24 PM

Larry Valenci,


Will u people EVER abandon hope and just give up? Or are ya just masochists?

Posted by: Rodger23 at July 7, 2011 10:27 PM

I never heard of Larry Valencia until he was on Gene Valicenti's Saturday radio show.
What an absolute ass he is.
I then saw him conduct a hearing on Capitol TV.He is totally unprofessional and abusive towards citizens who just want to state their opinion.
He was head of OCG?Boy,no wonder this state sucks(politically ).

Posted by: joe bernstein at July 7, 2011 11:22 PM

I've always wondered about this. Aren't the pole watchers or volunteers supposed to take some sort of official action when such a case presents? It seems a felony was committed, wasn't the local cop informed, a police report filed?

Posted by: Chris at July 7, 2011 11:24 PM

Chris, maybe they did, but what time did Anastasia Williams go to vote? If it was in the afternoon when well over 500 people had come through and you checked off her name and someone asks "What did that person look like?" are you going to have any idea? Sure, you can file a report but there's zero chance of catching the person.

Posted by: Patrick at July 8, 2011 8:13 AM

Let's see... Justin is a carpenter. There are, what, five people who write here on AnchorRising, and there are roughly 1,000,000 people in the state.

Therefore 200,000 carpenters live in RI. Voila! Or is it, 200,000 people in RI are named Justin? Equally valid! You're free to use my analysis, Monique. No charge.

Posted by: Russ at July 8, 2011 12:39 PM

btw, I've worked as a poll warden in Providence for years without having a single incident like that reported. Why not extrapolate that number, Monique?

Posted by: Russ at July 8, 2011 12:43 PM

Russ, does the problem not exist at all?

And no, maybe you didn't have the problem like Monique describes, but maybe the people who cheated the system were a little smarter than this one. Maybe they used names of people who don't vote very often and didn't show up to vote in the elections where you worked.

Is that possible?

Posted by: Patrick at July 8, 2011 1:54 PM

And maybe cyborgs are infiltrating our midst. Perhaps I should screen voters with metal detectors just in case. Can you prove that isn't happening?

One would think the burden of proof should be on the government when placing barriers to exercising Constitutional rights of citizens. Are there any other rights you guys think should be abridged based on a couple of annecdotes?

Posted by: Russ at July 8, 2011 2:33 PM

Which rights are being abridged here, again?

Posted by: Patrick at July 8, 2011 4:58 PM

I don't think Russ gives a flying f**k if non-citizens vote.
We should take this activist's word that there's no fraud?
Everything Russ doesn't want to acknowledge is "anecdotal".

Posted by: joe bernstein at July 8, 2011 5:45 PM

Good show Russ. There is a USA hating socialist at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. that could use you in his cabinet. You could be the "numbers Czar" and pontificate on issues like rising unemployment, jobs saved, increased revenues due to HusseinCare, Pelosi facelift incentives, number of oil & gas wells shut down due to lack of EPA permits (AKA rising energy costs), number of guns given to Mexican drug runners with taxpayer stimulus money. See Russ there are all sorts of needs for your numbers expertise. Why not go to DC? They can always use another talented liberal socialist such as yourself.

Posted by: ANTHONY at July 8, 2011 7:45 PM

Scott Mackay bellowed on Lively Experiment that voter fraud is a non-existent problem.
I hope the next time that gasbag goes to the doctor,the practioner refuses to let him see the license to practice.
Mackay is a journalist like I'm a nuclear physicist.

Posted by: joe bernstein at July 9, 2011 12:37 PM

Having lived though and research extensively the voter fraud problem in East Providence in 2004 and 06, we have a problem. MacKay is Baghdad Bob on this issue. We had at least 13 indicments.

Posted by: Kathy at July 12, 2011 11:13 AM

Possibly unscientific? That is an absurd extrapolation! Let's see, if we take the percentage of Red Sox fans in Rhode and use it for the US population, we'll get the number of Red Sox fans in the nation- really?

Posted by: Bob Graves at April 20, 2012 6:25 AM
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