June 25, 2010

"But Rhode Island Is Still Asleep"

Justin Katz

Heavy metal/punk rocker Henry Rollins used to (and may still) do free-form monologue shows — sort of a cross between stand-up comedy and academic lecture. As you might imagine, his commentary was often sordid and aggressive, but in my youth, I found there to be an underlying goodness, even wisdom, in his talks.

One skit that illustrates my description well began with him speaking against hating people — as opposed to abstractions, like weakness. But he confessed that he couldn't shake his hatred of folk-pop singer Edie Brickell (she of New Bohemians fame), and he described a work of performance art by which he imagines expressing his feelings. Essentially, he would go through bouts of torturing himself, after which a voice would come on the PA system and say, "But she's still alive."

That's the voice I heard when Richard DiDomenico, of North Providence, ended a recent letter to the Providence Journal (no longer online) as follows, after scorning RI Speaker of the House Gordon Fox (D., Providence) for his heavy-handed opposition to e-Verify:

The U.S. in general seems to be awakening, but Rhode Island is still asleep!

I'm already hearing the echo of that line every time I hear of the contentious actions of New Jersey's new Republican Governor Chris Christie. Perhaps it should haunt Rhode Islanders' dreams until such time as we begin electing people who might attempt something more ambitious than preserving as much of the status quo as possible.

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Nothing like a little Black Flag to get the motor running!

Posted by: michael at June 25, 2010 7:54 PM

Kudos for a Rollins reference - now there's a guy who, if you get past the hardcore thrash and the tattooage, speaks common sense whether he's a singer, actor, writer or publisher.
I'd like to see him follow in the footsteps of Midnight Oil singer Peter Garrett, who managed to earn a law degree during his band's heyday. He was elected an MP in the late '90s and eventually became Australia's environmental minister.

Posted by: rhody at June 25, 2010 10:19 PM

We could have had Laffey. But Gio, Carcieri, et al would have none of that. Even the opposition party doesn't really want change.

OK, time for bed.

Posted by: Nirnay at June 25, 2010 10:36 PM

During my years working with State of Rhode Island Department of Administration I was asked to research and author State of Rhode Island Information Technology and Information Systems Security; Standards, Program and Policies documents.

After about 9 months of researching other states I started writing based on my commercial, military and Federal background in the field.

I completed three documents which by my standards were voluminous but they included training materials as to why certain things were done in a certain way, dictionary of terms, law reference section and addressed all telecommunications, communications, Federal security requirements for sensitive but unclassified information and certification of hardware, firmware and software to security requirements.

Everything was proofread by other department geeks and non-computer geeks but respected in their fields in all disciplines for legality, technical’s and continuity and after some changes a green light was given to ship the documents across the street to the state house for review and implementation as a RI state-wide endeavor.

This was basically a canned approach with an open-ended back door for updates as technology and incidences evolved. I took the best of the best from all other 49 states and federal government.

That was the last I heard about anything till one day in talking to a project manager she indicated she had killed the project because the expert consultant she was seeing from Boston had a better plan and she was miffed that my documents were forward over his.

RI “e-Verify” was killed and not enacted in the state of Rhode Island.

“E-Verify” requires the transmission and reception of personally identifiable sensitive Federal information about an individual which is subject to Federal law suit by the individual of not less than $2,000 per incident of public disclosure or misuse in transmission or end use.

Federal Government requires Federal encryption standards be applied in the protection of the information end-to-end during transmission/reception and security certification of the information technology equipment used and in the storage of the information.

Currently the “e-Verify” federal system has not been purged of all false data resulting in a gross elevated rejection rate of false negatives.

As of this posting I have not been advised nor noticed the State of Rhode Island has a “State-wide unified information systems security policy, program and standards” in place to protect the personally identifiable sensitive information of the residents or other people contained on the computer systems, state web site portal and telecommunications or communications technology state systems.

I feel the killing of “E-Verify” was justified at this time as the State of Rhode Island could not afford fighting the private law suits and meet the basic federal security requirements.

Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2010 1:02 AM

Ken-what is your answer?
There will never be a perfect system.
Please don't go with "comprehensive immigration reform" because that just means amnesty and no enhanced enforcement.
I believe e-verify is the best we can do.So what if there are false negatives?If the person is legitimate there is a procedure in place to have them challenge the erroneous finding.
Just having the e-verify system operative will cause a lot of illegal aliens to refrain from seeking employment.
The law will deter them.What's wrong with that?It means less time consuming worksite raids with the attendant sob story garbage foisted on us by the "advocates".
It means ICE agents will be freed up to track down fugitives and criminal aliens.
Worksite raids were anathema to most agents.
If a naturalized citizen or legal alien gets a false negative they will actually have the easiest time clearing it up simply by producing their "A" number which can be verified in seconds.
There will be some identity theft of course.Just like there will be car crashes and tornadoes.
Don't reject the good in search of the perfect.

Posted by: joe bernstein at June 26, 2010 1:20 AM

Ditto everything Joe says. E-verify has a false negative of somewhere between 1% and 3%. That's an astoundingly high accuracy rate.

The temptation of jobs is the number one reason for millions of people to endanger themselves and breach our borders and our sovereignty. Dry up the job supply and that will cut way back on the impetus to come here.

Quite simply, anyone (here I'm referring to elected officials and candidates) who doesn't support the very reasonable, minimal step of implementing e-verify for the private sector rejects the notions of sovereignty and border security, not to mention the concept of Americans and legal immigrants getting first shot at a dwindling supply of jobs.

Posted by: Monique at June 26, 2010 7:58 AM

joe bernstein,

I’m not against “e-Verify”.

It’s the current information security requirements and safeguards that are not in place which would lead to a large number of law suits under the federal law that is the problem.

It would be very easy to challenge the security data transmission aspects of any computer system in court utilizing the Microsoft Operating system.

As far as I am concern the State of RI has done nothing to address the state-wide security issues nor has the state provided its own personnel with security training. Other states have very integrated security programs and laws related to the protection of personally identifiable sensitive information.

Of course nothing beats due diligence in security like the time I was working in Naval Undersea Warfare Center, Newport and there was a lot of commotion at an adjacent building. It seems a Polish national was working in a Top Secret Lab. with no green card nor security clearance discovered after security did a 6 month follow up security check.

Posted by: Ken at June 26, 2010 6:15 PM

I arrested a Colombian national who was illegally in the US(although married to a citizen)and had a security clearance(not a high one)while working in a factory that made night vision devices.
She also voted by posing as a US citizen.And she had six larceny convictions.
Her explanation to me:"Well,at least I'm not a whore or a drug dealer".
You can't make this stuff up.
PS:She was convicted of falsely claiming US citizenship,a felony.

Posted by: joe bernstein at June 26, 2010 7:31 PM

"She also voted by posing as a US citizen."


Posted by: Monique at June 26, 2010 7:43 PM

joe Bernstein,

You got me thinking!

Just what is it with INS and ICE that over the history the politicians have dismantled and resurrected the department too many time currently splitting it into three entities and lumping under DHS? No wonder USA boarders and immigration control is suffering!

DHS is now the new resident in my old command world HQ (I was civilian employee) next to embassy row. I walked the halls just to say hello or trained in the Labs every time I visited Washington, DC.

US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is the new name and it reminds me of what Admiral Dexter Poindexter was trying to do with DARPA funding right after 9/11 and “Total Information Awareness” (TIA) which Congress once full aware of the potential vehemently denied funding.

Once TIA was developed it would allow the military or whatever part of the government that had access to the technology the ability to build a comprehensive data profile and track the daily activities of any American individual it chooses. A graphic on DARPA’s web site in 2003 envisioned use of “Transactional Data” including “Financial, Educational, Travel, Medical, Veterinary, Country Entry, Place/Event Entry, Transportation, Housing and Communications” data as well as “Authentication Biometric Data”, including “Face, Finger Prints, Gait and Iris identifiers.” The General from Northern Command (NORTHCOM), which provides protection for the continental USA openly talked about TIA at a conference in 2003, and other government and civilian officials showed keen interest.

Now I don’t want to imply any end runs around congress or hanky-panky but it is interesting to note that the State of Rhode Island web page portal is designed and operated by NIC Inc. which is allowed to charge a minimal online fee ($5 and up) for services paid for with a credit card. Currently NIC Inc. offered the following databases and services to anyone: Driver's License Records Retrieval, Vehicle Title, Lien & Registration, Health Professional License Services, Secretary of State Business Searches, Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) Searches and Filings, Professional License Renewal, Driver’s License Renewal, Limited Criminal History Searches, Income and Property Tax Payments, Hunting and Fishing Licenses, Business Registrations and Renewals.

ChoicePoint was an active partner with Admiral Dexter Poindexter, DARPA and NIC Inc. ChoicePoint was a database clearinghouse that purchased companies that did financial and credit card clearing, DNA testing and company drug testing programs. Somehow ChoicePoint acquired the database of most all the South American countries. ChoicePoint and the database are now called "LexisNexis Risk Solutions."

NIC Inc. currently manages official federal government Web sites, eGovernment services, applications and secure payment processing for 3,000 state and local agencies. All that data and transaction information going into one funnel almost like Admiral Dexter Poindexter wanted.

Wal-mart has been collecting biometric data on everyone entering their stores and has a one of the largest biometric databases developed in the USA. They can recognize you and know what you will purchase as you enter the store. CVS and the grocery stores have been collecting data with customer appreciation cards. If you want to join Peapod Super Stop and Shop will provide a year-long printout of you purchases and preferences. I worked for Radio Shack for a while and those names and addresses went into a marketing database.

Of course no one is paying attention to all the video cameras that the cities and towns have been installing or the gPS devices all the car dealers want you to have in your car or the fact that your cell phone can be used to track your movements.

Public Law 100-235 established the “Computer Security Act of 1987.” A few interesting paragraphs indicated that the federal government will limit and reduce the amount of sensitive information and use existing systems instead of creating new ones and to purchase "commercial off the shelf (COTS)" (dies that also mean commercial databases?) to lower cost instead of custom building.

The USCIS e-Verify is basically a duplicate (actually they use the SSN database) of the US Social Security Administration social security number verification service (SSNVS) that employers and the IRS already use and after reading the Memorandum of Agreement between the private business and USCIS for e-Verify usage the private business is on the legal hook for anything wrong that might happen with the security and protection of information.

Under the November 6, 1986 law “anyone applying for a job in the USA and being hired to work” must complete an OMB-1615-0047 Form I-9 attesting to your eligibility to legally work in the USA. The employer must keep the formI-9 up to one year on file after you leave the job for inspection. According to the form all information is voluntary and not required.

Like I said before, I’m not against “e-Verify” but I smell rotten fish and there is a trail of blood!

Posted by: Ken at June 27, 2010 1:09 AM

joe Bernstein,

Paragraph “ChoicePoint acquired the database of most all the South American countries. ChoicePoint and the database are now called "LexisNexis Risk Solutions."

Should read;”ChoicePoint acquired the driver’s license databases of most all the South American countries. ChoicePoint and all the databases are now called "LexisNexis Risk Solutions."

Posted by: Ken at June 27, 2010 1:20 AM

Ken-I can't comment on most of your last post because it's something I know nothing about.
I can tell you this-the INS has been a hot potato nobody wanted,that's for sure.
Originally Border Patrol/INS was under the Dept of labor.
The INS was later placed under Dept of Justice with the AG being at the top of the chain of command.The INS contained both enforcement and services divisions.Enforcement consisted of Border Patrol,Investigations,and Deportation&Detention.
The Border Patrol was divided into sectors overseen by Chief Patrol Agents while interior enforcement and services were located in districts overseen by District Directors.DD's and CPA's in border areas had equal authority and the sectors and districts partially overlapped as they were not geographically the same.It was an administrative nightmare.
One example:In El Paso the sector had an anti-smuggling unit,and so did the district.They did the same job for the same agency,yet barely communicted.
Many District Directors had no enforcement background and consequently didn't manage that function effectively.
It was the worst management structure imaginable.
We also had Comissioners running the INS who had no background in immigration laws and procedures.
After 911 the DHS was formed(rather quickly for a government operation-hmmm?)and the Border patrol,Immigration Inspections,and Custom Inspections were formed into a separate agency called CBP.
INS and Customs Investigations were formed into ICE.Also added to ICE was the Federal Protective Service formerly in the General Services Administration(!!)which was concerned with security of Federal property.
INS and Customs inevstigations units rarely worked together before the consolidation because they had different missions,unlike INS Investigations and Border Patrol which had the same mission.Deportation&Detention was renamed DRO and became part of ICE.
It's a real clusterf*ck.
Agents from Customs didn' have to speak Spanish.INS agents had to be fluent.
Customs got the upper hand in the consolidation so guess what?ICE agents don't any longer need Spanish proficiency to complete their training.
All I can say is I'm glad I retired in 1996.

Posted by: joe bernstein at June 27, 2010 7:07 AM

Recall that civl libertarian Barack Hussein Obama recently signed an executive order granting INTERPOL unfettered operational ability in the United States -- no search warrants or anything else required.

Arguably granting a non-U.S. body the ability to operate in the U.S., and spy upon U.S. citizens without Constitutional protections is an impeachable offense.

But like the proverbial three monkeys, the media and ACLU sat on their hands -- heard no evil, say no evil, spoke no evil.

Just imagine the outcry if Bush-Cheney had done this!

Posted by: Ragin' Rhode Islander at June 27, 2010 3:14 PM

joe Bernstein,

I feel for you guys who worked for INS.
I’ve seen politics enter many organizations where it should not and almost destroy the agency!

I got caught by a federal sucker punch called Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC). I worked as a civilian computer information security specialist for Naval Computer and Telecommunications Command (NCTC) with responsibility for all computer security and messaging systems across 11 states. I also worked as a computer specialist at Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) plus I did Inspector General (IG) inspection of Submarine School, New London, CT; was TDY for a year attached to Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) in DC and instructed a computer security course at the Naval War College. I also was interviewed by National Security Agency for some of my published works.

If I was not working for the government I would own 3 patents right now.

During my slow periods I did computer systems repair at every command at Naval Base Newport and any US Navy vessel that docked at the base.

But like I said, due to BRAC my detachment command was abolished. I was picked up by the Department of Defense financing my work with the State of RI, US Army and RI Army National Guard before I finally retired to Hawaii in 2006.

I originally was Air Force and spent 2 volunteer years in Viet Nam after which I had workings with the US State Department, NASA, US Army Corps of Engineers, Germany, US Navy, US Marine Corps., Justice Department, FBI, Securities and Exchange Commission, First Fed Bank, NY, State Police, local RI police, FEMA, RI Emergency Management Agency and RI Department of Health.

I find a lot of federal and military retirees in Hawaii because our retirement income is exempted from state income tax and the older you get the less you pay in property tax (I’m down to minimum property payment of $100 per year). Plus no property tax on cars or boats, sales tax 4.5% and most all businesses offer military or senior discounts up to 50% off. No winter heating bills and great medical! The plusses out weight the cons for living here. Great daily eye candy!!

Posted by: Ken at June 27, 2010 7:45 PM

Ragin' Rhode Islander,

You said; “Recall that civl libertarian Barack Hussein Obama recently signed an executive order granting INTERPOL unfettered operational ability in the United States -- no search warrants or anything else required.”

According to “Fact Check” this is a myth: http://factcheck.org/2010/01/the-united-states-of-interpol/

President Obama’s Executive Order 13524 of Dec. 16 does nothing except grant to Interpol – the International Criminal Police Organization – certain privileges and immunities that the U.S. gives to dozens of other international groups under the International Organizations Immunities Act of 1945.

Why did it take so long to bring Interpol under the act was because Interpol did not have an office in the USA till 2004.

Bringing Interpol fully under the International Organizations Immunities Act is a process that was started by President Reagan (R) in 1983. With Executive Order 12425, Reagan declared that Interpol was covered by the act and all of its provisions except a few that had to do with exemptions from paying U.S. income, Social Security and property taxes, and several other issues.

President Clinton (D) in 1995 took things a step further, ordering that Interpol be granted exemptions under the act for purposes of customs duties and importation restrictions. Now, with Obama’s order, the law enforcement group is fully normalized under the law, just like the International Committee of the Red Cross, the Inter-American Development Bank, the North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission and nearly 100 other organizations.

It’s likely that some of the hubbub springs from a fundamental misunderstanding about what Interpol does. Interpol is indeed a police organization, with 188 member countries. According to its Web site, it “aims to facilitate international police co-operation even where diplomatic relations do not exist between particular countries.” Its priority areas include the drug trade, global crime syndicates, fugitives, financial and high-tech crimes.

But it doesn’t send agents out to do their own investigations and make arrests; it’s more of a facilitator. And its site also maintains that “action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries.”

Posted by: Ken at June 27, 2010 8:15 PM

Ken, I hope that you're right. OTOH, I'm skeptical that if this were the case that it would take an executive order to consummate Interpol's coverage under the act -- did those 100 plus other entities all receive executive orders?

Posted by: Ragin' Rhode Islander at June 27, 2010 10:43 PM

Ragin' Rhode Islander,

You can read every one of the Presidential Executive Orders on line if you want.

I suggest you read the International Organizations Immunities Act and don’t forget, President Ronald Regan (R) started the Executive Order on Interpol, President Bill Clinton (D) expanded the Executive Order and President Obama (D) finished the Executive Order because Interpol now has a physical office in the USA as of 2004.

The Internet has plenty of fodder and misinformation flying around. Just because you read it on the Internet and it sounds too blatant or you are directed to send or forward it to everyone you know should set off warning bells for you to check the source and story.

The list of all 100 is as follows:

International organizations designated by executive order as public international organizations entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions, and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act, with executive order number, date issued, and volume and page of Federal Register publication:

African Development Bank, Ex. Ord. No. 12403, Feb. 8, 1983, 48 F.R. 6087.
African Development Fund, Ex. Ord. No. 11977, Mar. 14, 1977, 42 F.R. 14671.
African Union, Ex. Ord. No. 13377, Apr. 13, 2005, 70 F.R. 20263.
Asian Development Bank, Ex. Ord. No. 11334, Mar. 7, 1967, 32 F.R. 3933.
Border Environment Cooperation Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 12904, Mar. 16, 1994, 59 F.R. 13179.
Caribbean Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 10983, Dec. 30, 1961, 27 F.R. 32.
Commission for Environmental Cooperation, Ex. Ord. No. 12904, Mar. 16, 1994, 59 F.R. 13179.
Commission for Labor Cooperation, Ex. Ord. No. 12904, Mar. 16, 1994, 59 F.R. 13179.
Commission for the Study of Alternatives to the Panama Canal, Ex. Ord. No. 12567, Oct. 2, 1986, 51 F.R. 35495.
Council of Europe in Respect of the Group of States Against Corruption (GRECO), Ex. Ord. No. 13240, Dec. 18, 2001, 66 F.R. 66257.
Customs Cooperation Council, Ex. Ord. No. 11596, June 5, 1971, 36 F.R. 11079.
European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, Ex. Ord. No. 12766, June 18, 1991, 56 F.R. 28463.
European Central Bank, Ex. Ord. No. 13307, May 29, 2003, 68 F.R. 33338.
European Space Agency, Ex. Ord. No. 11318, Dec. 5, 1966, 31 F.R. 15307; Ex. Ord. No. 11351, May 22, 1967, 32 F.R. 7561; Ex. Ord. No. 11760, Jan. 17, 1974, 39 F.R. 2343; Ex. Ord. No. 12766, June 18, 1991, 56 F.R. 28463.
Food and Agriculture Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 9698, Feb. 19, 1946, 11 F.R. 1809.
Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, Ex. Ord. No. 13395, Jan. 13, 2006, 71 F.R. 3203.
Great Lakes Fishery Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 11059, Oct. 23, 1962, 27 F.R. 10405.
Hong Kong Economic and Trade Offices, Ex. Ord. No. 13052, June 30, 1997, 62 F.R. 35659.
Inter-American Defense Board, Ex. Ord. No. 10228, Mar. 26, 1951, 16 F.R. 2676.
Inter-American Development Bank, Ex. Ord. No. 10873, Apr. 8, 1960, 25 F.R. 3097; Ex. Ord. No. 11019, Apr. 27, 1962, 27 F.R. 4145.
Inter-American Institute of Agricultural Sciences, Ex. Ord. No. 9751, July 11, 1946, 11 F.R. 7713.
Inter-American Investment Corporation, Ex. Ord. No. 12567, Oct. 2, 1986, 51 F.R. 35495.
Inter-American Statistical Institute, Ex. Ord. No. 9751, July 11, 1946, 11 F.R. 7713.
Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 11059, Oct. 23, 1962, 27 F.R. 10405.
Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 10795, Dec. 13, 1958, 23 F.R. 9709.
International Atomic Energy Agency, Ex. Ord. No. 10727, Aug. 31, 1957, 22 F.R. 7099.
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, Ex. Ord. No. 9751, July 11, 1946, 11 F.R. 7713.
International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, Ex. Ord. No. 12467, Mar. 2, 1984, 49 F.R. 8229.
International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes, Ex. Ord. No. 11966, Jan. 19, 1977, 42 F.R. 4331.
International Civil Aviation Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 9863, May 31, 1947, 12 F.R. 3559.
International Coffee Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 11225, May 22, 1965, 30 F.R. 7093.
International Committee of the Red Cross, Ex. Ord. No. 12643, June 23, 1988, 53 F.R. 24247.
International Cotton Advisory Committee, Ex. Ord. No. 9911, Dec. 19, 1947, 12 F.R. 8719.
International Cotton Institute, Ex. Ord. No. 11283, May 27, 1966, 31 F.R. 7667.
International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) (limited privileges), Ex. Ord. No. 12425, June 16, 1983, 48 F.R. 28069; Ex. Ord. No. 12971, Sept. 15, 1995, 60 F.R. 48617.
International Development Association, Ex. Ord. No. 11966, Jan. 19, 1977, 42 F.R. 4331.
International Development Law Institute, Ex. Ord. No. 12842, Mar. 29, 1993, 58 F.R. 17081.
International Fertilizer Development Center, Ex. Ord. No. 11977, Mar. 14, 1977, 42 F.R. 14671.
International Finance Corporation, Ex. Ord. No. 10680, Oct. 2, 1956, 21 F.R. 7647.
International Food Policy Research Institute (limited privileges), Ex. Ord. No. 12359, Apr. 22, 1982, 47 F.R. 17791.
International Fund for Agricultural Development, Ex. Ord. No. 12732, Oct. 31, 1990, 55 F.R. 46489.
International Hydrographic Bureau, Ex. Ord. No. 10769, May 29, 1958, 23 F.R. 3801.
International Joint Commission—United States and Canada, Ex. Ord. No. 9972, June 25, 1948, 13 F.R. 3573.
International Labor Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 9698, Feb. 19, 1946, 11 F.R. 1809.
International Maritime Satellite Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 12238, Sept. 12, 1980, 45 F.R. 60877.
International Monetary Fund, Ex. Ord. No. 9751, July 11, 1946, 11 F.R. 7713.
International Pacific Halibut Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 11059, Oct. 23, 1962, 27 F.R. 10405.
International Secretariat for Volunteer Service, Ex. Ord. No. 11363, July 20, 1967, 32 F.R. 10779.
International Telecommunication Union, Ex. Ord. No. 9863, May 31, 1947, 12 F.R. 3559.
International Telecommunications Satellite Organization (INTELSAT), Ex. Ord. No. 11718, May 14, 1973, 38 F.R. 12797; Ex. Ord. No. 11966, Jan. 19, 1977, 42 F.R. 4331.
International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources, Ex. Ord. No. 12986, Jan. 18, 1996, 61 F.R. 1693.
International Wheat Advisory Committee (International Wheat Council), Ex. Ord. No. 9823, Jan. 24, 1947, 12 F.R. 551.
Interparliamentary Union, Ex. Ord. No. 13097, Aug. 7, 1998, 63 F.R. 43065.
Israel-United States Binational Industrial Research and Development Foundation, Ex. Ord. No. 12956, Mar. 13, 1995, 60 F.R. 14199.
ITER International Fusion Energy Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 13451, Nov. 19, 2007, 72 F.R. 65653.
Korean Peninsula Energy Development Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 12997, Apr. 1, 1996, 61 F.R. 14949.
Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency, Ex. Ord. No. 12647, Aug. 2, 1988, 53 F.R. 29323.
Multinational Force and Observers, Ex. Ord. No. 12359, Apr. 22, 1982, 47 F.R. 17791.
North American Development Bank, Ex. Ord. No. 12904, Mar. 16, 1994, 59 F.R. 13179.
North Pacific Anadromous Fish Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 12895, Jan. 26, 1994, 59 F.R. 4239.
North Pacific Marine Science Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 12894, Jan. 26, 1994, 59 F.R. 4237.
Organization for European Economic Cooperation (now known as the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development), Ex. Ord. No. 10133, June 27, 1950, 15 F.R. 4159.
Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, Ex. Ord. No. 13049, June 11, 1997, 62 F.R. 32471.
Organization of American States (includes Pan American Union), Ex. Ord. No. 10533, June 3, 1954, 19 F.R. 3289.
Organization of Eastern Caribbean States, Ex. Ord. No. 12669, Feb. 20, 1989, 54 F.R. 7753.
Pacific Salmon Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 12567, Oct. 2, 1986, 51 F.R. 35495.
Pan American Health Organization (includes Pan American Sanitary Bureau), Ex. Ord. No. 10864, Feb. 18, 1960, 25 F.R. 1507.
Preparatory Commission of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Ex. Ord. No. 10727, Aug. 31, 1957, 22 F.R. 7099.
Provisional Intergovernmental Committee for the Movement of Migrants from Europe (now known as the Intergovernmental Committee for European Migration), Ex. Ord. No. 10335, Mar. 28, 1952, 17 F.R. 2741.
South Pacific Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 10086, Nov. 25, 1949, 14 F.R. 7147.
United International Bureau for the Protection of Intellectual Property (BIRPI), Ex. Ord. No. 11484, Sept. 29, 1969, 34 F.R. 15337.
United Nations, Ex. Ord. No. 9698, Feb. 19, 1946, 11 F.R. 1809.
United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 9863, May 31, 1947, 12 F.R. 3559.
United Nations Industrial Development Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 12628, Mar. 8, 1988, 53 F.R. 7725.
United States-Mexico Border Health Commission, Ex. Ord. No. 13367, Dec. 21, 2004, 69 F.R. 77605.
Universal Postal Union, Ex. Ord. No. 10727, Aug. 31, 1957, 22 F.R. 7099.
World Health Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 10025, Dec. 30, 1948, 13 F.R. 9361.
World Intellectual Property Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 11866, June 18, 1975, 40 F.R. 26015.
World Meteorological Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 10676, Sept. 1, 1956, 21 F.R. 6625.
World Tourism Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 12508, Mar. 22, 1985, 50 F.R. 11837.
World Trade Organization, Ex. Ord. No. 13042, Apr. 9, 1997, 62 F.R. 18017.
Source: Cornell University Law School Legal Information Institute, U.S. Code collection, Title 22, Chapter 7, Subchapter XVIII, section 288.
Also, U.S. House of Representatives, U.S. Code, Title 22, Chapter 7, Subchapter XVIII, sec. 288.

Posted by: Ken at June 28, 2010 1:28 AM


Ragin's initial statement went a bit far, but your FactCheck citation elides a significant immunity that President Reagan had not extended:

Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

Interpol is a foreign law enforcement agency that is now not subject to FOIA requests and such. I think a little more concern is merited about that than about the same privileges going to, say, the Pacific Salmon Commission.

Posted by: Justin Katz at June 28, 2010 5:01 AM

Think about this-Heinrich Muller who was the head of the Gestapo,was also head of Interpol in the late 30's and during WW2.Hmmm?

Posted by: joe bernstein at June 28, 2010 3:33 PM


That immunity has been granted to all 100 other Internationals working in the USA and Reagan’s EO did not offer that under the original EO because Interpol did not have a physical presence (office space) owned by them in the USA. When I did not have sex with that women Clinton extended Reagan’s EO he was filling in some of the holes Reagan left out. Obama with his EO, because Interpol now has an office in the USA, completed the EO by validating the last few exceptions to Reagan’s EO that dealt with physical property located in the USA and financial matters (such as taxes, Social Security payments etc).

For those who still want to yell and scream about this you’ll have to go back to President Ronald Reagan (R) who initiated the original EO offering International Organizations Immunities Act to Interpol.

The only problem that could be construed with all of the noise about Obama’s EO is that he is the only “black” President out of the three Presidents and the second Democrat to go along with a Republican endorsed EO providing continuity in accordance with the 100 other EOs issued addressing the International Organizations Immunities Act.

Before Interpol contracted their new physical USA office space they were allowed space in the US Department of Justice Building in DC which they still are allowed space. Interpol does not have a separate police force that fans out into the community that some “alarmist” have suggested.

joe bernstein,

According to the Internet there are three spellings all related to the head of the Gestapo but also to other Germans not related or being the head of the Gestapo.
There is a Heinrich Müller.
There is a Heinrich Mueller.
There is a Heinrich Muller.

However neither spelling of the names are associated with being head of Interpol in the 30s or during WW-II.

Presidents of Interpol:
1935-1938; Michael Skubl of Austria
1938-1940; Otto Steinhäusl of Austria
1940-1942; Reinhard Heydrich of Germany
1942-1943; Arthur Nebe of Germany
1943-1945; Ernst Kaltenbrunner of Austria

Posted by: Ken at June 28, 2010 9:26 PM


You said; “Interpol is a foreign law enforcement agency that is now not subject to FOIA requests and such. I think a little more concern is merited about that than about the same privileges going to, say, the Pacific Salmon Commission.”

Before I forget, you should read the US FOIA law before you try to quote it.

5 U.S.C. § 552 “Freedom of Information Act” (FOIA) is not enforceable outside of the confines of the U.S. Federal Government.

Whereas Interpol is not an “agency” of the U.S. Federal Government no request, demand or law suit citing 5 U.S.C. § 552 as the bases would be allowed in a U.S. court of law.

Posted by: Ken at June 28, 2010 11:57 PM

Ken-you're right.It was some other Nazi war criminals.
Kaltenbrunner was hanged.Heydrich was assassinated.Nebe wasn't charged with war crimes as far as I know-maybe he was dead by the war's end.I don't recall.

Posted by: joe bernstein at June 29, 2010 5:23 AM
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