December 11, 2008

Bounced vs. Presented: Parsing A Denial

Monique Chartier

About his brother's bad $75,000 check, Mayor David Cicilline said this yesterday to the I-Team's Jim Taricani:

But what is absolutely not possible is that it was ever brought to my attention that a check had been issued, had been dishonored by bank or bounced in the amount of $75,000 by my brother. I would have immediately intervened.

Doesn't "bounced" or "dishonored" mean that it was actually handed in to the bank, processed and then returned by the bank to payee? The ProJo's Mike Stanton reported in September that the check was handled as follows:

But when the city's lawyer tried to deposit the check, which was written on May 9, 2006, on John Cicilline's law office account at Fleet Bank, he was told that there were insufficient funds.

Standing at the teller window with a check and being told that there are insufficient funds to cover it is not the same as depositing a check and then having it bounce. Choosing his words carefully, the mayor has denied an event that no one alleges took place.

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I think that a reasonable, non-conspiracist understanding of "dishonored" would encompass calling a bank to inquire into the sufficiency of funds in the account.

Posted by: Pragmatist at December 11, 2008 3:18 PM



In other news outlets, Cicilline has denied knowing about "any events" regarding John Cicilline's 75k check.


Posted by: Matt Jerzyk at December 11, 2008 3:31 PM

Although I don't know this to be the case, it's also very possible that the check(s) was actually drawn on the same bank to which it was being deposited. Fleet/Bank of America does a lot of municipal business. If that occurred, the teller would have checked the account that the check was drawn from first before depositing it, since it was an "on us" check. If there were insufficient funds, they'd give the check back and say "try again later," instead of knowingly allowing a bad check to be deposited.

Of course, we've also recently learned that there were 2 different checks, so it's possible that the circumstances of the 2 checks could have differed.

PS If the way Matt is describing the denial by the mayor is accurate, than Cicilline is plainly lying (or his ex-Chief of Staff has perjured himself in the affidavit he filed). I'm going to trust the guy under oath first.

Posted by: Will at December 11, 2008 6:46 PM

The fat pervert "didn't know nothing about" his brother running the "check to nowhere" scam.
"Didn't know nothing about" the hispanic crook who ran the scam, even though he gave the fat pervert thousands in bribe-er-contributions-and the fat pervert gave the hispanic city jobs for his family members.
"Didn't know nothing about" his sister getting a no-show job at JCLS.
"Didn't know nothing" about his brother and workers at his law firm running shakedown schemes with corrupt cops.
"Didn't know nothing" about the going away to jail party for Fat Jack with tickets being forced on city workers and vendors at a $20 face value but (wink, wink) "give what you can"
2009 will be the year of the recall for this depraved, pathetic freak. He won't be mayor at this time next year.

Posted by: Mike at December 11, 2008 8:11 PM

David Cicilline is a serial liar.
I asked him about Simmons' salary supplement from an anonymous donor-he as much as called me an idiot on the air and told me not to listen to so much talk radio.Then it was proven that Simmons received those funds for a period of time.
Cicilline lied about the "protocol" between ICE and the Providence Police that had existed for "20 years".I was in a position to know better-I called him onit on air and dared him to call me a liar.He weaseled out.He didn't call me a liar because I think I know what I did on a routine basis for years.
Cicilline's brother settled thousands in parking tickets for pennies on the dollar in Municipal Court while we regular nobodies get f**ked over for $75 on a 2/10 second violation on a red light camera.The brother bragged to the press he would continue to park wherever he wanted to.
Cicilline is obviously lying here and now about the checks.
Matt Jerzyk should have enough common sense to realize that he threw in with a total scumbag and cut his losses.Cicilline dirties up everything and everyone he goes near.
Lying with a straight face is one of the hallmarks of a sociopathic personality.I grew up with a cousin like that who could by turns be charming and mindlessly violent.All that mattered was what he needed and the hell with everyone else.Unlike Cicilline he spent years in prison and thankfully is now dead.
I'd be satisfied if Cicilline just disappeared ino the sunset to live out his miserable life.

Posted by: joe bernstein at December 11, 2008 11:29 PM


Your comments are a wonderful example of the current state of conservative thinking. Bravo for your analysis. Justin, you must be proud.

Posted by: Pragmatist at December 12, 2008 12:36 AM

Pragmatist-you are a great example of a water-carrier for a lying crook.How "conservative" comes into it is a mystery to me.I don't like lying conservative crooks either.
If you can dispute anything I said,please do so.If all you can do is mock me,have a ball.It says more about you than me.

Posted by: joe bernstein at December 12, 2008 9:55 AM

It appears that the Mayor knew that his brother presented 2 checks to the City drawn on an acct.w/insufficient funds.To do so is fraud and not to report it is misprision of a felony.As an atty.,the mayor knows this.He can parse words all he wants now,but he should have stood by his original statements that he knew not of his brother's actions.He is now on a slippery slope,much as Bill Clinton once was.Let's see if the State Police interview him ,(and they may not),and what he says to them.

Posted by: joyce12 at December 13, 2008 10:31 AM
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