March 10, 2008

A Generous Offer Rejected?

Monique Chartier

Senator Hillary Clinton has proposed Senator Barack Obama for the vice presidential spot (with her as the presidential candidate) not once, but twice. And former President Bill Clinton has been talking up a Clinton/Obama ticket as "unstoppable".

Today, Senator Obama declined the number two spot, pointing out

With all due respect, I have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton. ... I have won more of the popular vote than Senator Clinton. I have more delegates than Senator Clinton. So, I do not know how somebody who is in second place is offering the vice presidency to the person who is in first place.

... oh, that's right.

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that old clinton arrogance and sense of inevitable entitlement is at it again-obama's winning and she's essentially offering him a bone-what's wrong with this picture?it's not like i'd vote for either one of them but i think his worst sin is idealistic delusion and hers-well,where do we start?she reminds me of the boogie-woogie man in "the nightmare before christmas"-a facade masking corrupt putrescence(i gotta stop reading lovecraft)-the clintons' lust for power is a real horror story

Posted by: joseph bernstein at March 11, 2008 1:16 AM

Karl Rove on Fox last night pointed out that the Clintons have basically baited Sen. Obama into answering this personally.

In making that response, Sen. Obama sounds a little petty, don't you think?

Rove's point is that Sen. Obama is letting the Clintons dictate the agenda, and this is the kind of issue where the response should come from a surrogate, not the candidate himself.

I think the analysis is correct; although it may not hurt Sen. Obama at this point, it does reveal that he really might quite not be ready for for the big leagues.

Posted by: brassband at March 11, 2008 8:11 AM

Personally I think that Karl Rove, mastermind of the last eight years of absolute Charlie Foxtrot should promptly sit down and STFU. I wouldn't trust him to watch my DOGS.

Posted by: Greg at March 11, 2008 8:23 AM

What kind of message is Hillary sending? On one hand, she's putting out the VP feelers to Obama, but on the other, her chief spokesman is saying McCain is more qualified to be commander in chief than Obama. Make up your mind, Hil.
Even if Obama loses the nomination, he'd be crazy to accept. That would be like accepting the endorsement of a guy who put out rumors that you were mentally unstable, your wife was a drug addict, questioned your daughter's ancestry...

Posted by: rhody at March 11, 2008 11:03 AM

Anyone who turns down a VP nomination is a fool.

If the ticket wins, he/she would be the VP and have an excellent chance to become President in his own right.

If the ticket loses he/she would be the odds-on favorite for 2012.

Posted by: brassband at March 11, 2008 1:50 PM

Brassband, you'd be right 99 percent of the time. But why would Obama want to be part of a Clinton co-presidency in which he'd be reduced to an ornament? In a Clinton administration (unless she picks somebody already tight with she and Bill), Obama would be squeezed out of any role close to what Gore or Cheney has enjoyed.

Posted by: rhody at March 11, 2008 4:51 PM

I am so weary of the Clintons, and pray that the electorate sees it this way, too. Geraldine Ferraro's comments today about Senator Obama were the final straw. I also don't think it is coincidental that the number of racially motivated fear- and hate-mongering comments increased significantly. Clintonistas are playing a dangerous game with the American psyche.

Posted by: BeachSaint at March 11, 2008 8:20 PM

Question,

Does anyone think this country, as a whole, is ready and willing to fully back and have a female president or a black president?

Posted by: Ken at March 12, 2008 2:31 AM

(Yes, we are, Ken.)

Brassband, it is entirely possible that there was a secondary, manipulative motive for Senator Clinton to ask this question. How about this? She got Obama on the record as rejecting the vice presidential spot, thereby freeing her up to invite someone else in the event she is the candidate.

Ultimately, though, considering the fact that Obama was (is) ahead at the time, she just looks silly for asking the question, whatever her motive.

Posted by: Monique at March 12, 2008 8:25 AM

Ken,

We've had 43 white guys running the show. I think it's somebody else's turn. I'm a big Obama fan. I don't care what color he is.

I'd be ok with a woman, too. Just not THAT woman.

Posted by: Greg at March 12, 2008 12:34 PM
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